How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025

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What Does “How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025” Talk About?

This episode of the James Dooley Podcast features James Dooley and Kasra Dash walking through a practical, step-by-step framework for surveying companies looking to generate more leads in 2025. The hosts cover a wide range of digital and platform-based strategies, beginning with Google Business Profile optimisation, including gathering five-star reviews, building citations, and posting regularly. They then move into SEO-optimised service pages, pay-per-click advertising on Google and Bing, and Meta ads on Facebook and Instagram, discussing the trade-offs between lead forms and conversion-based ad formats.

The conversation also explores organic social media, AI-powered content automation using tools like N8N, and the growing importance of visibility on AI search engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Grok. The hosts discuss tradesperson platforms like Checkatrade, Bark, Rated People, and Builder Builder, advising businesses to track KPIs carefully. A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to comparing inbound versus outbound lead generation, the value of exclusive versus shared leads, and the critical role of real-time lead response in conversion rates. FatRank's commission-based lead generation model, where businesses only pay upon completing a converted job, is also introduced as a risk-free alternative to traditional pay-per-lead services.

“The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead.”

— Kasra Dash

Who Are the Guests on “How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025”?

James Dooley is a UK-based lead generation entrepreneur and the founder of FatRank, a commission-based lead generation platform. He has extensive experience working with businesses across a wide range of industries throughout the UK, helping them grow through digital marketing, SEO, and performance-based lead generation strategies. He hosts the James Dooley Podcast to share actionable marketing insights with business owners.

Kasra Dash is a digital marketing strategist with deep expertise in SEO, paid advertising, and lead generation. He frequently collaborates with James Dooley on content covering practical growth strategies for UK-based service businesses. Kasra brings a data-driven perspective to topics like inbound versus outbound marketing, AI search visibility, and the mechanics of lead quality and conversion optimisation.

What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025”?

Here are the key points discussed in this episode:

  • Optimising your Google Business Profile by collecting five-star reviews, building citations, and posting regularly is the foundational first step for generating local surveying leads.
  • Creating dedicated, SEO-optimised service pages for each surveying service not only improves organic search rankings but also indirectly boosts Google Business Profile visibility for relevant keywords.
  • Inbound leads convert into paying customers at a rate of around 16.1 percent compared to just 1.4 percent for outbound leads, making inbound strategies significantly more efficient and cost-effective.
  • Responding to enquiries in under a minute can increase lead conversion rates by approximately 63 percent, making real-time lead delivery and fast response a critical operational priority.
  • When evaluating lead generation companies, surveying businesses should always ask whether leads are exclusive or shared, as shared leads often result in a race to the bottom on price rather than genuine client relationships.

“If you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60 percent higher. I think 63 percent higher. And when we came and got the KPIs down it was trying to respond within under a minute and we used to think five minutes was good.”

— Kasra Dash

Is “How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025” Worth Listening To?

This episode is particularly valuable for surveying company owners who want a clear, prioritised list of lead generation tactics rather than vague marketing advice. James and Kasra move through each channel methodically, explaining not just what to do but what pitfalls to avoid, such as click fraud in PPC campaigns and the quality issues associated with Facebook lead forms. The comparison between shared and exclusive leads is especially useful for anyone who has previously used platforms like Checkatrade or Bark and felt frustrated by the competitive, price-driven nature of those shared lead environments.

What sets this episode apart is the inclusion of forward-looking topics like AI search engine visibility on platforms such as ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok, alongside the hard conversion statistics that back up the hosts' recommendations. The data points around inbound versus outbound conversion rates and the impact of real-time response times give business owners concrete benchmarks to measure their own performance against. Whether you are just starting to invest in marketing or looking to scale an already-established surveying business, this episode offers a structured and actionable roadmap.

Who Should Listen to “How to Get More Surveying Leads in 2025”?

This episode is ideal for:

  • Surveying business owners in the UK looking to grow their client enquiries through digital marketing
  • Marketing managers at trades and property services companies evaluating which lead generation channels to prioritise
  • Entrepreneurs and small business owners considering commission-based or pay-per-sale lead generation partnerships
  • Freelance digital marketers and SEO professionals working with local service businesses who want a framework for client growth strategies

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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?

★★★★★

“Really useful breakdown for anyone running a surveying business. The stats around inbound versus outbound conversion rates were eye-opening, and the explanation of why shared leads on platforms like Bark create a race to the bottom matched exactly what I had been experiencing. Practical and straight to the point.”

— Daniel R.

★★★★★

“I appreciated that James and Kasra didn't just list tactics but explained the risks too, like click fraud in PPC and the quality issues with Facebook lead forms. The section on responding to leads in under a minute was a wake-up call for how we handle enquiries internally.”

— Sophie M.

★★★★★

“The mention of AI search engines like ChatGPT and Gemini as places your business needs to show up was something I had never considered before. This episode gave me a much broader view of lead generation beyond just Google and social media. Will definitely be revisiting the FatRank commission model as well.”

— Tom W.

James Dooley and Kasra Dash break down the most effective lead generation strategies for surveying companies across the UK. They explain how to scale using Google Business Profile optimisation, SEO service pages, PPC, Meta ads, organic social media, AI search visibility and tradespeople platforms. They also cover the pros and cons of inbound versus outbound leads, the importance of realtime lead delivery and how commission based lead generation works. The discussion highlights practical actions surveying businesses can take to increase enquiries and convert more clients.

**James Dooley:** If you are a surveying company and you want a consistent flow of leads generated for your surveying business, this video is for you. Myself and Kasra Dash, we've worked with a lot of different surveying companies nationwide throughout the UK and we know exactly which type of marketing strategies work and which marketing strategies you should also avoid as a surveying business. So, Kasra, take it away. **James Dooley:** So step number one, what I'd be looking to do to grow is a Google Business Profile. If you already have one, I'd be making certain that I would be reaching out to all my existing clients to try to get me as many five star reviews as possible. It's a great way of Google Business Profile to generate more leads. There's obviously getting citations and doing Google Business Profile posts and uploading photos on there. So that's definitely step one that I would be doing to try to generate more local leads. **Kasra Dash:** So step number two, this is kind of to bolster onto your actual Google Business Profile is I would be creating dedicated service pages for each of your individual services as SEO optimised pages on your website. Now the good thing is when you start doing that, it's also going to help first of all rank your actual SEO optimised page, but there's also more likelihood of your Google Business Profile ranking and showing up for those keywords as well. So you're indirectly going to get more phone calls as well. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And if you are looking for more local leads, another option that you could be doing is PPC lead generation. That's pay per click within Google or within Bing where you're trying to target the bottom of the funnel keywords that can try to generate you some more enquiries. The difficult part to this is you need to make certain you team up with a good pay per click agency because there is click fraud and there's also needing to build up a negative keyword list. So it's not people applying for jobs like a careers kind of job. So PPC can work well but in the wrong hands you can waste a lot of money but it's another way of generating local leads. **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. And then after that you've also got meta ads as well. So like Facebook, Instagram, where the next time when somebody goes on to Facebook they might be scrolling and they might see your ad. Now there's a few different ways that you can set up Facebook ads. You've obviously got option A which is lead forms, which is really easy to do. They don't even leave the Facebook platform. They never click onto your actual website. Now the issue with lead forms is that the quality might not be great, but you can obviously add more questions in to try and up that quality of the actual lead. Then you've also got conversion ads as well where that actually gets sent through to your website and then they fill out the contact form to you on your website as well. So you've got a couple of different options there that you can do. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And then another way to grow more local leads could be organic social media. So posting regularly on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube, on Pinterest, on Instagram. There's lots of different platforms out there that you can be trying to get there. Reddit's quite big nowadays. Quora is quite big if people have got questions and you can answer it. So organic social media is another great way to be generating more local leads for your business. **Kasra Dash:** With organic social media, I would say that it's more of a volume game. So you want to try and make certain that you're constantly uploading whether it's for example a daily schedule or a weekly schedule. You might say, okay, I want to try and upload five videos a week. And you should just try and stick to that, especially when it comes to algorithms like YouTube and Twitter and stuff. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean, what's your thoughts on using any sort of AI agents if they can try to team up with someone to use N8N to automate and schedule posts on social media? What's your thoughts on trying to leverage artificial intelligence? It's all the rage nowadays for trying to generate more leads. Would you try to team up with an AI consultant to set that up? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So, I mean, you can definitely go down that route where you're setting up AI agents to potentially crop up some videos and autopublish to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and stuff. But another thing that I would also be focusing on is AI search. So a lot of people have started to kind of move away from Google. Not everyone because there's billions of people still using it every single day. But there are slowly people starting to search in engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Grok and if your brand isn't actually showing up in any of those you will have an issue showing up and generating leads on those search engines as well. So that's another thing I would be focusing on as a company. **James Dooley:** Yeah. And also, if you're looking for more business leads in the local area, something else that I would definitely be looking to do is team up with some of the trades people websites. So you've got certain ones like Checkatrade, Bark, Builder Builder, Trust a Trader, Rated People. All these different platforms can generate you more local leads. What I would say is making certain you're tracking your KPIs to see what return on investment you're getting. You should be tracking not only the cost per lead but the cost per acquisition and how much that is getting you on a return on investment. But trades people websites like those platforms can work very well. I'd say make sure you check out the links in the description because we do quite a lot of different videos in comparing Checkatrade with FatRank or Bark with FatRank, Rated People with FatRank, Builder Builder with FatRank. So now obviously I've mentioned FatRank a few times Kasra, what's your thoughts on lead generation companies as opposed to trades people companies? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So with lead generation companies I would almost say that every single lead generation company you want to try and do your due diligence. So make certain that if you are in a specific niche that lead generation company has actually generated leads in that industry before. I would also maybe even have a strategy call with them and say okay this is my budget, this is how many leads I ideally want etc to make certain that your actual KPIs align with that lead generation company. You also want to make certain what type of leads are they. Are they exclusive leads? Are the leads only going through to yourself? Or are they shared leads? Which is what a lot of lead generation tools and lead generation companies do like Bark and Checkatrade and stuff. Whenever we, myself and James, have spoken to company owners that have used those services, that's one of their biggest pain points where they say yeah it's a shared lead and it's kind of a rat race down to the bottom of who's the cheapest basically. So that's a couple things I would be asking lead generation companies before partnering up with them. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean, if anyone is interested in generating more local leads, I strongly recommend heading over to FatRank.com where we have a commission based lead generation service. That means you only pay a finders fee on converted jobs. You have nothing to pay on the pay per lead. You have nothing to pay until you get paid, until you convert that job on a pay per sale basis and you've completed the job and been paid. That's when you only have to pay FatRank.com. So head on over to FatRank.com to see whether you qualify. But I want to kind of expand a little bit further. So what is your thoughts on inbound lead generation versus outbound lead generation? **Kasra Dash:** So I always prefer inbound. The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer and money coming into your business bank account is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead. **James Dooley:** Yeah, that's pretty crazy. That's like a 12. Well yeah it's 10 to 12 times more conversion. **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. Like it's crazy how much more conversion that is. You need to do a lot of volume for outbound, whether it's cold calling or cold email or LinkedIn Sales Navigator and stuff like that. And sometimes you need a lot more staff to do it as well. And people sometimes don't, they're looking at the cost going I want to generate free leads and they're generating what they think are free leads but there's still the cost of the email sending, the cost of the sales team trying to convert them and stuff like that. So yeah, I completely agree with you that inbound leads is so much better than outbound leads. But when, what's your thoughts then on some people who ask the question that come through that want local leads and they ask are these realtime leads? Is realtime leads very important to get so as soon as they inquire it comes through to you straight away? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah, it's very important. I think the last stat that we saw internally was if you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60 percent higher. I think 63 percent higher. And when we came and got the KPIs down it was trying to respond within under a minute and we used to think five minutes was good. And then when people respond in under a minute, enquiry comes in, can you either ring them or email them back saying thanks a lot for the enquiry and then get more information. Yeah it was pretty. **James Dooley:** So I mean I'm not saying that every company needs to respond in under a minute. There are certain things that we obviously look at at FatRank when we're looking to partner up with businesses. That's one of the things that a lot of businesses fall short on where they might be away for five days on holiday and they don't have somebody to pick up the leads and we're still providing the leads. So there's all these little different nuances that we look at when we are partnering up with companies. But the best thing I would recommend to anyone looking to scale their business, that's looking to get a consistent flow of high quality leads, is just fill out the form at FatRank. The team will tell you if you're the right fit or not, and we'll also tell you and give you feedback why you're not the right fit and what you should do as your next steps. So we hope you like the different strategies we've been through for lead generation for surveying companies. If you are a surveyor that works on different types of surveys, could be topographical surveys, underground surveys, CCTV drain surveys, there's lots of different surveys that you can do throughout the UK. Over at FatRank.com we're able to help you grow your surveying company. So make sure you fill in the form and hopefully we can start to generate you more surveying leads.

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