How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025
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What Does “How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025” Talk About?
This episode of the James Dooley Podcast features James Dooley and Kasra Dash walking demolition company owners through a comprehensive step-by-step lead generation strategy for 2025. The conversation opens with foundational tactics like optimising a Google Business Profile through five-star reviews, citations, posts, and photos, before moving into creating SEO-optimised service pages that can simultaneously boost website rankings and local map pack visibility. The hosts then cover paid channels including PPC campaigns on Google and Bing, with a warning about click fraud and the importance of negative keyword lists, as well as Meta ads on Facebook and Instagram using both lead forms and conversion-based campaigns.
The discussion also explores organic social media posting schedules across platforms like YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit, and touches on the emerging importance of AI search engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Grok for brand visibility. Tradespeople platforms like Checkatrade, Bark, Rated People, and TrustATrader are acknowledged as lead sources, though both hosts highlight the shared lead problem that makes these platforms a race to the bottom on price. The episode closes with a detailed breakdown of why inbound leads convert at roughly 16.1 percent compared to just 1.4 percent for outbound, why real-time responses boost conversions by around 63 percent, and how FatRank's commission-based model works as an alternative to pay-per-lead services.
“The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer into money coming into your business bank account is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead.”
— Kasra Dash
Who Are the Guests on “How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025”?
James Dooley is a UK-based digital marketing expert and the founder of FatRank, a commission-based lead generation company that works with tradespeople and specialist contractors across the UK. He has extensive hands-on experience running SEO campaigns, PPC strategies, and lead generation systems for local businesses, and regularly produces comparison content evaluating platforms like Checkatrade, Bark, and Rated People against FatRank's own model.
Kasra Dash is a digital marketing strategist and frequent collaborator with James Dooley who brings deep expertise in paid media, SEO, and conversion optimisation. He is well-versed in Meta advertising strategies, AI search trends, and lead quality analysis, and regularly works alongside James to advise demolition companies and other trade businesses on scaling their inbound lead pipelines.
What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025”?
Here are the key points discussed in this episode:
- Optimising a Google Business Profile with five-star reviews, citations, regular posts, and photos is the most immediate first step a demolition company can take to generate more local leads.
- Creating SEO-optimised dedicated service pages on a website not only helps those pages rank independently but also indirectly increases the likelihood of the associated Google Business Profile appearing in local search results.
- PPC campaigns can generate strong bottom-of-funnel leads but must be managed carefully by an experienced agency to avoid click fraud and wasted spend on irrelevant searches such as job applications.
- Inbound leads convert at approximately 16.1 percent into paying customers compared to just 1.4 percent for outbound leads, making inbound strategies around 10 to 12 times more effective at generating actual revenue.
- Responding to an inbound enquiry in under one minute can increase conversion rates by approximately 63 percent compared to delayed responses, making speed of follow-up a critical operational factor for demolition businesses.
“If you are able to get a real time lead it converts 60 percent higher than, was it 60 or 65 percent?”
— Kasra Dash
Is “How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025” Worth Listening To?
This episode is worth listening to because it delivers a genuinely practical, ranked list of lead generation strategies rather than vague marketing theory. James and Kasra move methodically from free tactics like Google Business Profile and organic social media through to paid options and third-party platforms, giving demolition business owners a clear sense of where to start and how to layer strategies as their budget and capacity allow. The specific statistics they cite, such as inbound leads converting at over 16 percent versus 1.4 percent for outbound, and real-time responses boosting conversions by 63 percent, give listeners concrete benchmarks to evaluate their own sales processes.
What makes this episode particularly valuable is the frank discussion of where popular platforms like Bark and Checkatrade fall short, specifically the shared lead problem that puts contractors in a price race against each other. James and Kasra also raise a topic that most marketing content ignores in 2025, which is the growing importance of appearing in AI search engines like ChatGPT and Gemini. For any demolition business owner who has spent money on leads with disappointing results, this episode reframes the conversation around lead quality, exclusivity, and response speed rather than just lead volume.
Who Should Listen to “How to Get More Demolition Leads in 2025”?
This episode is ideal for:
- Demolition company owners in the UK looking for a structured marketing strategy to grow their pipeline in 2025
- Trade business owners who have tried platforms like Checkatrade or Bark and are frustrated by shared leads and low conversion rates
- Digital marketers working with local trade businesses who want a practical overview of the full lead generation mix including AI search
- Small business owners in the construction or demolition sector considering whether to invest in SEO, PPC, or a commission-based lead generation service
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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?
“Really useful breakdown of exactly what a demolition company should be doing in 2025. The point about inbound leads converting at 16 percent versus outbound at 1.4 percent alone was worth the watch. Completely changed how I think about where to spend my marketing budget.”
“James and Kasra do a great job of covering everything from Google Business Profile basics all the way through to AI search engines like ChatGPT and Gemini. I hadn't considered that my business needed to show up in those platforms and now I'm looking into it properly.”
“The section on shared leads really resonated with me. I've been using Bark for two years and the race to the bottom on price is exactly what they described. Good to hear there are alternatives with a commission-based model where you only pay once the job is done.”

**James Dooley:** If you are a demolition company and you're looking for a consistent flow of inquiries, then this video is for you. Myself and Kasra Dash, we have worked with a lot of demolition companies up and down the UK and we know exactly what works from a marketing strategy and also what doesn't work for a marketing strategy as well. So, this video is for you. So, step number one, what I'd be looking to do to grow is a Google Business Profile. If you already have one, I'd be making certain that I would be reaching out to all my existing clients to try to get me as many five star reviews as possible. It's a great way of Google Business Profile to generate more leads. There's obviously getting citations and doing Google Business Profile posts and uploading photos on there. So, that's definitely step one that I would be doing to try to generate more local leads. **Kasra Dash:** So step number two, this is kind of to bolster onto your actual Google Business Profile, is I would be creating dedicated service pages for each of your individual services as SEO optimised pages on your website. Now the good thing is when you start doing that it's also going to help first of all rank your actual SEO optimised page, but there's also more likeliness chance of your Google Business Profile ranking and showing up for those keywords as well. So you're indirectly going to get more phone calls as well. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And if you are looking for more local leads, another option that you could be doing is PPC lead generation. That's pay per click within Google or within Bing where you're trying to target the bottom of the funnel keywords that can try to generate you some more inquiries. The difficult part to this is you need to make certain you do team up with a good pay per click agency because there is click fraud and there's also needing to be build up like a negative keyword list so it's not people applying for jobs like a careers kind of job. So PPC can work well but it can in the wrong hands waste a lot of money. But it's another way of generating local leads. **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. And then after that you've also got meta ads as well. So like Facebook, Instagram, where the next time when somebody goes on to Facebook they might be scrolling they might see your ad. Now there's a few different ways that you can set up Facebook ads. You've obviously got option A which is lead forms, which is really easy to do. They don't even leave the Facebook platform, like they never click onto your actual website. Now the issue with lead forms is that the quality might not be great, but you can obviously add more questions in to try and up that quality of the actual lead. Then you've also got conversion ads as well where that actually gets sent through to your website and then they fill out the contact form to you or on your website as well. So you've got a couple of different options there that you can do. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And then another way to grow more local leads could be organic social media. So posting regularly on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube, on Pinterest, on Instagram. There's lots of different platforms out there that you can be trying to get there. Reddit's quite big nowadays and Quora is quite big if people have got questions and you can answer it. So organic social media is another great way to be generating more local leads for your business. **Kasra Dash:** With organic social media, I would say that it's more of a volumes game. So you want to try and make certain that you're constantly uploading whether it's for example a daily schedule or a weekly schedule. You might say, okay, I want to try and upload five videos a week. And you should just try and stick to that, especially when it comes to algorithms like YouTube and Twitter and stuff. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean, what's your thoughts on using any sort of AI agents if they can try to team up with someone to use like N8N to kind of automate and schedule posts on social media? Like what's your thoughts on that, trying to leverage artificial intelligence? It's all the rage nowadays for trying to generate more leads. Would you try to team up with an AI consultant to set that up? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So, you can definitely go down that route where you're setting up AI agents to potentially crop up some videos and autopublish to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and stuff. But another thing that I would also be focusing on is AI search. So a lot of people have started to kind of move away from Google. Not everyone because there's billions of people still using it every single day. But there are slowly people starting to search in engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Grok. And if your brand isn't actually showing up in any of those you will have a little bit of an issue showing up and generating leads on those search engines as well. So that's another thing that I would be focusing on as a company. **James Dooley:** Yeah. And also if you're looking for more business leads in the local area, something else that I would definitely be looking to do is team up with some of the trades people websites. So you've got certain ones like Checkatrade, you've got Bark, you've got Builder Builder, you've got TrustATrader, you've got Rated People. All these different platforms can generate you more local leads. What I would say is making certain you're tracking your KPIs to see what return on investment you're getting. You should be tracking not only the cost per lead but the cost per acquisition and how much that is getting you on a return on investment. But trades people websites like those platforms can work very well. I would say make certain you check out the links in the description because we do quite a lot of different videos comparing Checkatrade with FatRank or Bark with FatRank, Rated People with FatRank, Builder Builder with FatRank. So now obviously I've mentioned FatRank a few times Kasra, what's your thoughts on lead generation companies as opposed to trades people companies? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So with lead generation companies I would almost say that every single lead generation company you want to try and do your due diligence. So make certain that if you are in a specific niche that lead generation company has actually generated leads in that industry before. I would also maybe even have a strategy call with them and say okay this is my budget, this is how many leads I ideally want etc to make certain that if your actual KPIs align with that lead generation company. You also want to make certain what type of leads are they. Are they exclusive leads? Are the leads only going through to yourself? Or are they for example shared leads which that's what a lot of other lead generation tools and companies do. Like for example Bark and Checkatrade and stuff. Whenever we, myself and James, have spoken to company owners that have used those services, that's one of their biggest pain points where they say yeah it's a shared lead and it's kind of a rat race down to the bottom of who's the cheapest basically. So that's a couple of things I would be asking lead generation companies before partnering up with them. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean if anyone is interested in generating more local leads, I strongly recommend heading over to FatRank.com where we have a commission based lead generation service. That means you only pay a finder's fee on converted jobs. You've nothing to pay on the pay per lead. You've nothing to pay until you get paid, until you convert that job on a pay per sale basis and you've completed the job and been paid. That's when you only have to pay FatRank.com. So head on over to FatRank.com to see whether you qualify. But I want to expand a little bit further. What is your thoughts on inbound lead generation versus outbound lead generation? **Kasra Dash:** So, I always prefer inbound. The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer into money coming into your business bank account is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead. **James Dooley:** Yeah, that's pretty crazy. That's like a 12. **Kasra Dash:** Well, yeah. It's 10 to 12 times more conversion. **James Dooley:** Yeah. Like it's crazy how much more conversion that is. You need to do a lot of volume for outbound, whether it's cold calling or cold email or LinkedIn Sales Navigator and stuff like that. And sometimes you just need a lot more staff to do it as well. And people sometimes don't, they're looking at the cost going I want to generate free leads and they think they're generating free leads but there's still cost of the email sending, still cost of the sales team trying to convert them and stuff like that. So yeah, I completely agree with you that inbound leads is so much better than outbound leads. But what's your thoughts then on when people ask the question that come through that want local leads and then they talk about are these real time leads, like is real time leads very important to get as soon as they inquire and it comes through to you straight away? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah, it's very important. And I think the last stat that we saw internally was if you are able to get a real time lead it converts 60 percent higher than, was it 60 or 65 percent? **James Dooley:** 60, I think 63 percent higher. **Kasra Dash:** And when we came and got the KPIs down it was like trying to respond within under a minute. We used to think five minutes was good and then when people respond in under a minute. So inquiry comes in, can you either ring them or email them back saying thanks a lot for the inquiry and then getting more information. Yeah. **James Dooley:** I mean I'm not saying that every company needs to respond in under a minute. There are certain things that we look at at FatRank when we're looking to partner up with businesses. That's one of the things that a lot of businesses fall short on where they might be away for five days on holiday and they don't have somebody to pick up the leads and we're still providing the leads. So there's all these little different nuances that we look at when we are partnering up with companies. But the best thing that I would recommend to anyone that's looking to scale their business, that's looking to get a consistent flow of high quality leads is just fill out the form at FatRank. The team will tell you if you're the right fit or if you're not and we'll also tell you why you're not the right fit and what you should do as your next steps. So I hope you like all the different lead generation strategies for a demolition company. If you are looking for more demolition leads, make sure you head on over to FatRank.com and we will be able to start generating you more leads for demolition projects.
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James Dooley is a UK entrepreneur.