How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025
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What Does “How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025” Talk About?
This episode of the James Dooley Podcast brings together James Dooley and Kasra Dash to walk chartered surveyors through a comprehensive set of marketing strategies designed to grow their businesses and generate more local leads in 2025. The hosts cover a broad range of tactics including Google Business Profile optimisation, building SEO-optimised service pages, running PPC campaigns through Google and Bing, and launching Meta ads on Facebook and Instagram. They explain the nuances of each approach, such as the risk of click fraud in PPC and the difference between lead form ads and conversion ads on Facebook, giving listeners a realistic picture of what each strategy involves.
“The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer, into money coming into your business bank account, is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead.”
— Kasra Dash
Who Are the Guests on “How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025”?
James Dooley is a digital marketing and lead generation expert and the founder of FatRank, a commission-based lead generation service. He brings hands-on experience working with businesses across the UK to help them scale through inbound lead strategies, SEO, and paid media, and regularly produces comparative content evaluating platforms like Checkatrade, Bark, and Rated People against his own service.
Kasra Dash is a marketing strategist and frequent collaborator with James Dooley who has worked extensively with chartered surveyors and other trade businesses throughout the UK. He has a strong focus on conversion optimisation, inbound marketing, and emerging search channels including AI-driven search engines like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude.
What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025”?
Here are the key points discussed in this episode:
- Optimising a Google Business Profile by collecting five-star reviews, building citations, and posting regularly is one of the most effective first steps for chartered surveyors wanting to generate more local leads.
- Creating dedicated, SEO-optimised service pages on your website not only helps those pages rank but also increases the likelihood that your Google Business Profile will appear for relevant local search terms.
- Inbound leads convert at roughly 16.1 percent compared to just 1.4 percent for outbound leads, making inbound strategies far more cost-effective than cold calling or cold email campaigns.
- Shared leads from platforms like Bark and Checkatrade often create a race to the bottom on price, so chartered surveyors should seek exclusive leads and verify whether a lead generation company has experience in their specific niche.
- Responding to a real-time inbound inquiry in under one minute can increase conversion rates by approximately 63 percent, making response speed one of the most impactful and overlooked factors in lead generation success.
“If you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60 percent higher. I think 63 percent higher. And when we came and got the KPIs down it was like trying to respond within under a minute and it was like what we used to think five minutes was good and then when people respond in under a minute.”
— James Dooley
Is “How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025” Worth Listening To?
This episode is worth listening to because it offers a genuinely practical, channel-by-channel breakdown of what actually works for chartered surveyors rather than vague marketing advice. James and Kasra draw on direct experience working with surveyors across the UK, and they are honest about where strategies can go wrong, such as the risks of wasted spend in poorly managed PPC campaigns or the quality issues that come with shared leads on platforms like Bark and Checkatrade. The comparison of inbound versus outbound conversion rates alone, 16.1 percent versus 1.4 percent, gives listeners a compelling, data-backed reason to rethink how they allocate their marketing budgets.
What makes this episode particularly valuable is the attention paid to often-overlooked details, including the growing importance of showing up in AI search engines like ChatGPT and Gemini, the strategic use of N8N automation for social media publishing, and the critical role of response time in converting inquiries. Whether you are just starting out or looking to scale an established surveying practice, the layered strategy presented here, from Google Business Profile all the way through to real-time lead response protocols, gives you a clear and actionable roadmap to follow.
Who Should Listen to “How to Get More Chartered Surveying Leads in 2025”?
This episode is ideal for:
- Chartered surveyors and surveying firm owners looking for practical lead generation strategies tailored to their industry
- Digital marketers and SEO professionals who work with local trade or professional service businesses
- Business owners in related trades and professional services who want to understand inbound versus outbound lead generation
- Entrepreneurs evaluating lead generation platforms and wanting to understand the difference between shared and exclusive leads
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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?
“Really useful breakdown for anyone running a surveying business. The point about shared leads on platforms like Bark being a race to the bottom on price was something I had experienced but never heard explained so clearly. Switched my thinking completely on where to invest my budget.”
“The stat about responding to leads in under a minute increasing conversions by 63 percent genuinely shocked me. I had no idea response speed mattered that much. James and Kasra gave me something immediately actionable to take back to my team.”
“Loved how they covered AI search visibility alongside traditional SEO and PPC. The reminder that people are now searching on ChatGPT and Gemini and that your brand needs to show up there too felt very timely. Solid episode from start to finish.”

Kasra Dash: If you are a chartered surveyor and you are looking to generate more business and more leads for your company, this video is for you. Myself and James, we've worked with a lot of different chartered surveyors throughout the UK, so we know exactly what works when it comes to a marketing strategy and also how to consistently grow your business as well. And in this video, we're going to be breaking all of that down for you. Marketing strategies that you should avoid and also marketing strategies that you should be doubling down on as well. So, James, take it away. James Dooley: So, step number one, what I'd be looking to do to grow is a Google business profile. If you already have one, I'd be making certain that I would be reaching out to all my existing clients to try to get me as many five-star reviews as possible. It's a great way, a Google business profile, to generate more leads. There's obviously getting citations and doing Google business profile posts and uploading photos on there. So, that's definitely step one that I would be doing to try to generate more local leads. Kasra Dash: So, step number two, this is kind of to bolster onto your actual Google business profile is I would be creating dedicated service pages for each of your individual services as SEO optimized pages on your website. Now, the good thing is when you start doing that, it's also going to help first of all rank your actual SEO optimized page, but there's also more likeliness chance of your Google business profile ranking and showing up for those keywords as well. So, you're indirectly going to get more phone calls as well. James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. And if you are looking for more local leads, another option that you could be doing is PPC lead generation. That's pay-per-click within Google or within Bing where you're trying to target the bottom-of-the-funnel keywords that can try to generate you some more inquiries. The difficult part to this is you need to make certain you do team up with a good pay-per-click agency because there is click fraud and there's also needing to be build up like a negative keyword list. So, it's not people applying for jobs like a careers kind of job. So PPC can work well but it can in the wrong hands you can waste a lot of money but it's another way of generating local leads. Kasra Dash: Yeah. And then after that you've also got like meta ads as well. So like Facebook, Instagram, where the next time when somebody goes on to Facebook they might be scrolling, they might see your ad. Now there's a few different ways that you can set up Facebook ads. You've obviously got option A which is like lead forms which is really easy to do. They don't even leave the Facebook platform. The issue with lead forms is that the quality might not be great, but you can obviously add more questions in to try and up that quality of the actual lead. Then you've also got conversion ads as well where that actually gets sent through to your website and then they fill out the contact form on your website as well. So, you've got a couple different options there that you can do. James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. And then another way to grow more local leads could be organic social media. So, posting regularly on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube, on Pinterest, on Instagram. There's lots of different platforms out there that you can be trying to get there. Reddit's quite big nowadays and Quora is quite big if people have got questions and you can answer it. So organic social media is another great way to be generating more local leads for your business. Kasra Dash: With organic social media, I would say that it's more of like a volumes game. So you want to try and make certain that you're constantly uploading whether it's for example a daily schedule or a weekly schedule. You might say, "Okay, I want to try and upload five videos a week." And you should just try and stick to that, especially when it comes to algorithms like YouTube and Twitter and stuff. James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. I mean, what's your thoughts on using any sort of AI agents if they can try to team up with someone to get use like N8N to kind of automate and schedule posts on social media? Like what's your thoughts on trying to leverage artificial intelligence? It's all the rage nowadays for trying to generate more leads. Would you try to team up with an AI consultant to set that up? Kasra Dash: Yeah. So, I mean, you can definitely go down that route where you're setting up AI agents to potentially crop up some videos and autopublish to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and stuff. But another thing that I would also be focusing on is AI search. So, a lot of people have started to move away from Google. Not everyone because there's billions of people still using it every single day. But there are slowly people starting to search on engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Grok. And if your brand isn't actually showing up in any of those you will have a little bit of an issue showing up and generating leads on those search engines as well. So that's another thing that I would be focusing on as a company. James Dooley: Yeah. And also, if you're looking for more business leads in the local area, something else that I would definitely be looking to do is team up with some of the trades people websites. So, you've got certain ones like Checkatrade, you've got Bark, you've got Builder Builder, you've got Trust a Trader, you've got Rated People. All these different platforms can generate you more local leads. What I would say is making certain you're tracking your KPIs to see what return on investment that you're getting. You should be tracking not only the cost per lead but the cost per acquisition and how much is that getting you on a return on investment. But trades people websites like those platforms can work very well. I would say make certain you check out the links in the description because we do quite a lot of different videos comparing Checkatrade with FatRank or Bark with FatRank, Rated People with FatRank, Builder Builder with FatRank. So now obviously I've mentioned FatRank a few times Kasra, what's your thoughts on lead generation companies as opposed to trades people companies? Kasra Dash: Yeah. So with lead generation companies I would almost say that every single lead generation company you want to try and do your due diligence. So make certain that if you are in a specific niche that lead generation company has actually generated leads in that industry before. I would also maybe even have a strategy call with them and say like okay this is my budget this is how many leads I ideally want etc to make certain that your actual KPIs do align with that lead generation company. You also want to make certain that what type of leads are they. Are they exclusive leads? Are the leads only going through to yourself or are they for example shared leads which that's what a lot of other lead generation tools and lead generation companies do like for example Bark and Checkatrade. Whenever we, myself and James, have spoken to company owners that have used those services, that's one of their biggest pain points where they say, "Yeah, it's a shared lead and it's kind of a rat race down to the bottom of who's the cheapest basically." So, that's a couple things I would be asking lead generation companies before partnering up with them. James Dooley: Yeah, for sure. I mean, if anyone is interested in generating more local leads, I strongly recommend heading over to FatRank.com where we have a commission-based lead generation service. That means you only pay a finders fee on converted jobs. You have nothing to pay on the pay-per-lead. You have nothing to pay until you get paid, until you convert that job on a pay-per-sale basis and you've completed the job and been paid. That's when you only have to pay FatRank.com. So head on over to FatRank.com to see whether you qualify. But I want to kind of expand a little bit further. Right. So what is your thoughts on inbound lead generation versus outbound lead generation? Kasra Dash: So, I always prefer inbound. The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer, into money coming into your business bank account, is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1 percent end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4 percent when it's an outbound lead. James Dooley: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. That's like 10 to 12 times more conversion. Kasra Dash: Yeah. Like it's crazy how much more conversion that is. You need to do a lot of volume for outbound whether it's cold calling or cold email or LinkedIn Sales Navigator and stuff like that. And sometimes you just need a lot more staff to do it as well. And people sometimes don't. They're looking at the cost going I want to generate free leads and they think they're generating free leads but there's still cost of the email sending, still cost of the sales team trying to convert them and stuff like that. So yeah, I completely agree with you that inbound leads is so much better than outbound leads. But what's your thoughts then on some people ask the question that come through that want local leads and then they talk about are these real time leads. Like is real time leads very important to get so soon as they inquire it comes through to you straight away? James Dooley: Yeah, it's very important. I think the last stat that we saw internally was if you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60 percent higher. I think 63 percent higher. And when we came and got the KPIs down it was like trying to respond within under a minute and it was like what we used to think five minutes was good and then when people respond in under a minute. So inquiry comes in, can you either ring them or email them back saying thanks a lot for the inquiry and then getting more information. Yeah, it was huge. I mean I'm not saying that every company needs to respond in under a minute. There are certain things that we obviously look at at FatRank when we're looking to partner up with businesses. That's one of the things that a lot of businesses fall short on where they might be away for five days on holiday and they don't have somebody to pick up the leads and we're still providing the leads. So there's all these little different nuances that we look at when we are partnering up with companies. But the best thing that I would recommend to anyone that's looking to scale their business, that's looking to get a consistent flow of high quality leads is just fill out the form at FatRank. The team will tell you if you're the right fit or if you're not, and we'll also tell you and give you feedback why you're not the right fit and what you should do as your next steps. So, I hope you like all the different lead generation strategies put in place for a chartered surveying company. If you are a chartered surveyor and you are looking for more leads, make sure you head on over to FatRank.com, fill in the form, and hopefully we can start to generate you more chartered surveying leads.
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James Dooley is a UK entrepreneur.