How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025

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What Does “How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025” Talk About?

This episode of the James Dooley Podcast dives into the most effective lead generation strategies for architects in 2025 and beyond. James Dooley and Kasra Dash walk through a comprehensive, step-by-step framework for growing an architectural practice, starting with foundational tactics like optimising a Google Business Profile and building SEO-focused service pages on your website. They explain how these two elements work together to improve visibility in local search results and drive more inbound phone calls and enquiries.

The conversation also covers paid and organic channels, including PPC advertising on Google and Bing, Meta ads on Facebook and Instagram, and consistent organic social media posting across platforms like YouTube, Twitter, and Reddit. James and Kasra discuss the growing importance of AI search platforms such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Grok, warning that businesses not showing up on these emerging engines risk missing out on a growing segment of search traffic. They also compare tradespeople platforms like Check a Trade, Bark, and Rated People against dedicated lead generation companies, highlighting key due diligence steps when evaluating any lead generation partner.

A significant portion of the episode is devoted to the performance gap between inbound and outbound lead generation, citing statistics showing inbound leads convert at roughly 16.1% compared to just 1.4% for outbound. James and Kasra also discuss how responding to a new enquiry in under a minute can increase conversion rates by over 60%, and they explain how FatRank's commission-based, pay-per-sale model removes financial risk for architects looking to scale their business.

“The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1% end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4% when it's an outbound lead.”

— Kasra Dash

Who Are the Guests on “How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025”?

James Dooley is a digital marketing expert and entrepreneur best known as the founder of FatRank, a commission-based lead generation company operating across the UK. With extensive experience helping tradespeople and professional service businesses grow through inbound marketing, James brings a practical, results-focused perspective to topics like SEO, PPC, and local lead generation. He regularly produces content comparing lead generation platforms and helping business owners understand their return on investment.

Kasra Dash is a digital marketing specialist and co-host who works alongside James Dooley at FatRank. Kasra has deep expertise in paid advertising, SEO strategy, AI search optimisation, and lead conversion. He frequently advises business owners on how to evaluate lead generation companies, structure their marketing budgets, and improve the speed and quality of their lead response processes to maximise revenue.

What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025”?

Here are the key points discussed in this episode:

  • Optimising your Google Business Profile with five-star reviews, citations, regular posts, and photos is the single most important first step for generating more local leads as an architect.
  • Building dedicated, SEO-optimised service pages for each architectural service you offer not only improves your website rankings but also indirectly boosts your Google Business Profile's visibility for relevant keywords.
  • Inbound leads convert into paying customers at a rate of roughly 16.1% compared to just 1.4% for outbound leads, making inbound strategies significantly more cost-effective and scalable for architects.
  • Responding to a new enquiry in under a minute can increase lead conversion by over 63%, making real-time lead delivery and rapid response one of the highest-impact operational improvements an architectural practice can make.
  • Architects evaluating lead generation companies should always ask whether leads are exclusive or shared, as shared leads from platforms like Bark and Check a Trade often create a race to the bottom on price.

“Yeah it's very important. I think the last stat that we saw internally was if you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60% higher. I think it was 63% higher.”

— Kasra Dash

Is “How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025” Worth Listening To?

This episode is an exceptionally practical resource for any architect or architectural practice owner who wants a clear, actionable roadmap for growing their business through lead generation in 2025. Rather than offering vague advice, James Dooley and Kasra Dash walk through each strategy in a logical sequence, from Google Business Profile basics all the way through to AI search platforms like ChatGPT and Gemini. The inclusion of specific conversion statistics, such as the 16.1% versus 1.4% inbound-to-outbound comparison and the 63% conversion uplift from real-time lead response, gives listeners concrete benchmarks to measure their own performance against.

What makes this episode particularly valuable is the candid discussion about the pitfalls of commonly used platforms like Bark, Check a Trade, and Rated People, and the important questions architects should ask before committing budget to any lead generation company. The hosts speak from direct experience working with architects across the UK, which grounds every recommendation in real-world results rather than theory. Whether you are just starting to invest in marketing or looking to replace an underperforming lead source, this episode provides a solid framework for making smarter, more informed decisions.

Who Should Listen to “How to Get More Architect Leads in 2025”?

This episode is ideal for:

  • Architects and architectural practice owners looking to generate a consistent flow of inbound enquiries and grow their client base in 2025.
  • Small business owners in professional services or the construction trades who want to understand the difference between shared and exclusive leads and how to evaluate lead generation companies.
  • Digital marketers working with local service businesses who want an up-to-date overview of which channels, including AI search platforms, are driving results in the current landscape.
  • Entrepreneurs and business development managers who want to understand how response time and lead delivery speed directly impact sales conversion rates.

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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?

★★★★★

“Finally an episode that gets straight to the point. The breakdown of inbound versus outbound conversion rates was eye-opening, I had no idea the gap was that dramatic. Really changed how I think about where to put my marketing budget.”

— Marcus T.

★★★★★

“Really useful episode. The advice about asking lead generation companies whether leads are exclusive or shared is something I wish I had heard before signing up to Bark. Would have saved me a lot of wasted money and frustration.”

— Sophie R.

★★★★★

“The point about responding to leads in under a minute converting 63% higher blew my mind. We had been treating a same-day response as good enough and this episode made me completely rethink our process. Practical and straight to the point.”

— Daniel K.

James Dooley and Kasra Dash explain the most effective lead generation strategies for architects in 2025. They outline how architects can grow by improving Google Business Profiles, building SEO service pages, running PPC and Meta ads, posting consistent organic social content, and preparing for AI search platforms like ChatGPT, Gemini and Claude. They discuss how tradespeople sites compare with lead generation companies and why due diligence matters for exclusive leads. They also highlight the major performance gap between inbound and outbound leads and explain why realtime lead delivery dramatically increases conversion rates.

**James Dooley:** So today we're going to be talking about architectural lead generation. So lead generation for architects, how to win more work and what is currently winning architects more work in 2025 and also beyond. Myself and James, we actually deal with a lot of different architects throughout the UK. So we know exactly which type of marketing strategies work and also which marketing strategies don't work as well. So James, take it away. **James Dooley:** So step number one, what I'd be looking to do to grow is a Google business profile. If you already have one, I'd be making certain that I would be reaching out to all my existing clients to try to get me as many fivestar reviews as possible. It's a great way of Google business profile to generate more leads. There's obviously getting citations and doing Google business profile posts and uploading photos on there. So that's definitely step one that I would be doing to try to generate more local leads. **Kasra Dash:** So step number two, this is kind of to bolster onto your actual Google business profile is I would be creating dedicated service pages for each of your individual services as SEO optimized pages on your website. Now, the good thing is is when you start doing that, it's also going to help first of all rank your actual SEO optimized page, but there's also more likeliness chance of your Google business profile ranking and showing up for those keywords as well. So you're indirectly going to get more phone calls as well. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And if you are looking for more local leads, another option that you could be doing is PPC lead generation. That's pay-per-click within Google or within Bing where you're trying to target the bottom of the funnel keywords that can try to generate you some more inquiries. The difficult part to this is you need to make certain you do team up with a good pay-per-click agency because there is click fraud and there's also needing to be build up like a negative keyword list. So, it's not people applying for jobs like a careers kind of job. So PPC can work well but it can in the wrong hands you can waste a lot of money but it's another way of generating local leads. **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. And then after that you've also got like meta ads as well. So like Facebook Instagram where the next time when somebody goes on to Facebook they might be scrolling they might see your ad. Now there's a few different ways that you can set up Facebook ads. You've obviously got option A which is like lead forms which is like really easy to do. They don't even leave the Facebook platform, like they never click onto your actual website. Now, the issue with lead forms is that the quality might not be great, but you can obviously add more questions in to try and up that quality of the actual lead. Then you've also got conversion ads as well where that actually gets sent through to your website and then they fill out the contact form to you or on your website as well. So you've got a couple different options there that you can do. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. And then another way to grow more local leads could be organic social media. So posting regularly on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube, on Pinterest, on Instagram. There's lots of different platforms out there that you can be trying to get there. Reddit's quite big nowadays. Quora is quite big if people have got questions and you can answer it. So organic social media is another great way to be generating more local leads for your business. **Kasra Dash:** With organic social media, I would say that it's more of like a volumes game. So you want to try and make certain that you're constantly uploading whether it's for for example a daily schedule or a weekly schedule. You might say, "Okay, I want to try and upload five videos a week." And you should just try and stick to that, especially when it comes to algorithms like YouTube and Twitter and stuff. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean, what's your thoughts on using any sort of AI agents if they can try to team up with someone to use like N8N to kind of automate and schedule posts on social media? What's your thoughts on that of trying to leverage artificial intelligence? It's all the rage nowadays for trying to generate more leads. Would you try to team up with like an AI consultant to set that up? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So you can definitely go down that route where you're setting up AI agents to potentially crop up some videos and autopublish to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and stuff. But another thing that I would also be focusing on is AI search. So a lot of people have started to kind of move away from Google. Not everyone because there's billions of people still using it every single day. But there are slowly people starting to search in engines such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Grok. And if your brand isn't actually showing up in any of those you will have a little bit of an issue showing up and generating leads on those search engines as well. So that's another thing that I would be focusing on as a company. **James Dooley:** Yeah. And also, if you're looking for more business leads in the local area, something else that I would definitely be looking to do is team up with some of the trades people websites. So you've got certain ones like Check a Trade, Bark, Builder Builder, Trust a Trader, Rated People. All these different platforms can generate you more local leads. What I would say is making certain you're tracking your KPIs to see what return on investment you're getting. You should be tracking not only the cost per lead but the cost per acquisition and how much is that getting you on a return on investment. But trades people websites like those platforms can work very well. I would say make certain you check out the links in the description because we do quite a lot of different videos comparing Check a Trade with Fat Rank or Bark with Fat Rank, Rated People with Fat Rank, Builder Builder with Fat Rank. **James Dooley:** So now obviously I've mentioned Fat Rank a few times Kasra. What's your thoughts on lead generation companies as opposed to trades people companies? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah. So with lead generation companies I would almost say that every single lead generation company you want to try and do your due diligence. So make certain that if you are in a specific niche that lead generation company has actually generated leads in that industry before. I would also maybe even have a strategy call with them and say, "Okay this is my budget, this is how many leads I ideally want" etc to make certain that your actual KPIs do align with that lead generation company. You also want to make certain what type of leads they are. Are they exclusive leads? Are the leads only going through to yourself? Or are they for example shared leads which that's what a lot of other lead generation tools and lead generation companies do like Bark and Check a Trade. Whenever we, myself and James, have spoke to company owners that have used those services, that's one of their biggest pain points where they say, "Yeah it's a shared lead and it's kind of a rat race down to the bottom of who's the cheapest basically." So that's a couple things I would be asking lead generation companies before partnering up with them. **James Dooley:** Yeah, for sure. I mean if anyone is interested in generating more local leads, I strongly recommend heading over to fatrank.com where we have a commissionbased lead generation service. That means you only pay a finders fee on converted jobs. You've nothing to pay on the pay per lead. You have nothing to pay until you get paid, until you convert that job on a pay per sale basis and you've completed the job and been paid. That's when you only have to pay fatrank.com. So head on over to fatrank.com to see whether you qualify. **James Dooley:** But I want to kind of expand a little bit further. So what is your thoughts on inbound lead generation versus outbound lead generation? **Kasra Dash:** So I always prefer inbound. The conversion rate of not just getting the lead, but the lead actually converting into a paying customer into money coming into your business bank account is a lot higher. The last stat that I saw for that was something like 16.1% end up converting into a paying customer as opposed to 1.4% when it's an outbound lead. **James Dooley:** Yeah that's pretty crazy. That's like a 12... well yeah it's 10 to 12 times more conversion. It's crazy how much more conversion that is. You need to do a lot of volume for outbound whether it's cold calling or cold email or like LinkedIn Sales Navigator and stuff like that. And sometimes you just need a lot more staff to do it as well. And people sometimes they're looking at the cost going "I want to generate free leads" and they think they're generating free leads but there's still cost of the email sending, still cost of then the sales team trying to convert them and stuff like that. So yeah I completely agree with you that inbound leads is so much better than kind of outbound leads. **James Dooley:** But what's your thoughts then on some people asking the question that come through that want local leads and then they talk about realtime leads. Like is realtime leads very important to get so as soon as they inquire it comes through to you straight away? **Kasra Dash:** Yeah, it's very important. I think the last stat that we saw internally was if you are able to get a realtime lead it converts 60% higher. I think it was 63% higher. And when we came and got the KPIs down it was like trying to respond within under a minute. And it was like what we used to think five minutes was good and then when people respond in under a minute. So inquiry comes in, can you either ring them or email them back saying, "Thanks a lot for the inquiry" and getting more information. Yeah it was pretty. **Kasra Dash:** I'm not saying that every company needs to respond in under a minute. There are certain things that we obviously look at at Fat Rank when we're looking to partner up with businesses. That's one of the things that a lot of businesses fall short on where they might be away for 5 days on holiday and they don't have somebody to pick up the leads and we're still providing the leads. So there's all these little different nuances that we look at when we are partnering up with companies. **Kasra Dash:** But the best thing that I would recommend to anyone that's looking to scale their business, that's looking to get a consistent flow of high quality leads is just fill out the form at Fat Rank. The team will tell you if you're the right fit or if you're not, and we'll also tell you and give you feedback why you're not the right fit and what you should do as your next steps. **James Dooley:** So I hope you like all the different strategies we've been through there for lead generation for architects. If you are an architectural practice and you're looking for more leads, make certain you head on over to fatrank.com, fill in the form, and let's see whether Fat Rank can do lead generation for your architectural business.

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