How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025
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What Does “How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025” Talk About?
This episode of the James Dooley Podcast features James Dooley and Kasra Dash breaking down the most effective lead generation strategies specifically for HVAC businesses in 2025. The hosts draw on their hands-on experience working with HVAC companies across the UK to walk through a step-by-step framework covering Google Business Profiles, SEO-optimised service pages, PPC advertising, Meta ads, and organic social media. They explain how each channel works, what pitfalls to watch out for, and how to track performance using KPIs like cost per lead and return on investment.
The episode also digs into emerging opportunities such as AI automation tools like N8N for scheduling and publishing social content, as well as visibility on AI-powered search engines like ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Grok. James and Kasra compare tradespeople platforms such as Checkatrade, Bark, and Rated People against dedicated lead generation companies, emphasising the critical difference between shared and exclusive leads. The conversation closes with a data-driven comparison of inbound versus outbound lead generation and why responding to real-time leads in under a minute can dramatically increase conversion rates.
“The last stat I saw was around 16.1 percent converting for inbound versus 1.4 percent for outbound. It's crazy how much more inbound converts.”
— James Dooley
Who Are the Guests on “How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025”?
James Dooley is a lead generation specialist and the founder of FatRank.com, a commission-based lead generation service that charges businesses only when they convert a job. He has extensive experience helping local tradespeople and service businesses scale through inbound marketing, PPC, and organic search strategies. Throughout the episode he draws on real internal data and practical client experience to explain what actually moves the needle for HVAC companies.
Kasra Dash is a digital marketing strategist and co-host who has worked alongside James with numerous HVAC companies across the UK. He brings deep expertise in SEO, Meta advertising, organic social media, and AI search optimisation. Kasra is particularly focused on helping businesses future-proof their lead generation by building visibility not just on Google but across emerging AI-driven search platforms.
What Are the Key Takeaways From “How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025”?
Here are the key points discussed in this episode:
- Building and actively maintaining a Google Business Profile with five-star reviews, citations, posts, and photos is the single most important first step for generating local HVAC leads.
- Creating dedicated SEO-optimised service pages for each individual HVAC service indirectly boosts both website rankings and Google Business Profile visibility, leading to more inbound phone calls.
- HVAC companies should now prioritise visibility on AI search engines like ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and Grok, as a growing segment of consumers are shifting away from traditional Google searches.
- When evaluating lead generation companies or tradespeople platforms, HVAC businesses must determine whether leads are exclusive or shared, since shared leads force a race to the bottom on price.
- Real-time leads convert approximately 63 percent higher than delayed leads, making rapid response time, ideally under one minute, a critical factor in converting inquiries into paying customers.
“Real time leads convert around 63 percent higher. Responding in under a minute made a huge difference.”
— James Dooley
Is “How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025” Worth Listening To?
This episode is a practical, no-fluff playbook for any HVAC business owner who wants to understand exactly where to invest their marketing budget in 2025. James and Kasra do not just list channels in the abstract. They explain the mechanics behind each strategy, warn against specific pitfalls like click fraud in PPC and poor lead quality in Facebook lead forms, and back their recommendations with real conversion rate data. The structured step-by-step format makes it easy to follow and immediately actionable.
What sets this episode apart is the forward-looking perspective the hosts bring to topics like AI agents for content automation and brand visibility on platforms like ChatGPT and Gemini. Most marketing content for tradespeople stops at Google and Facebook, but James and Kasra push the conversation further, giving HVAC business owners a genuine competitive edge if they act early on AI search optimisation. The inbound versus outbound comparison, grounded in specific statistics, is alone worth the listen for any owner currently spending money on cold outreach.
Who Should Listen to “How to Get More HVAC Leads in 2025”?
This episode is ideal for:
- HVAC business owners who want to generate a consistent and scalable flow of inbound leads without relying solely on word of mouth or referrals
- Marketing managers at home services or trades companies looking for a structured multi-channel lead generation framework they can adapt to their own business
- Freelance digital marketers and SEO consultants who want to deepen their understanding of local lead generation strategies for the trades and home services sector
- Small business owners in any local service industry who are evaluating whether to work with lead generation companies, tradespeople platforms, or build their own inbound marketing presence
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What Are Listeners Saying About This Episode?
“Really useful breakdown of every lead gen channel an HVAC company should be using. The comparison between shared leads on platforms like Bark versus exclusive leads was something I had never thought about clearly before and it immediately changed how I evaluate my marketing spend.”
“The stat about inbound converting at 16.1 percent versus 1.4 percent for outbound was a genuine eye-opener. I have been pouring money into cold outreach and this episode made me completely rethink my approach. Practical and straight to the point.”
“What I appreciated most was the section on AI search engines like ChatGPT and Gemini. Most marketing podcasts for tradespeople never go near that topic and James and Kasra explained why it matters now before it becomes a crowded space. Definitely rewatching this one.”

**Kasra Dash:** If you are a HVAC business and you're looking for a consistent flow of inquiries for your HVAC company, this video is for you. Myself and James, we've worked with a lot of different HVAC companies throughout the UK, so we know exactly what type of marketing strategies work, which type of marketing strategies you should also avoid, and we're going to be breaking it all down in this video. So James, take it away. **James Dooley:** Step number one, what I'd be looking to do to grow is a Google Business Profile. If you already have one, I'd be making certain that I would be reaching out to all my existing clients to try to get me as many five star reviews as possible. It's a great way for a Google Business Profile to generate more leads. There's obviously getting citations and doing Google Business Profile posts and uploading photos. That's definitely step one to generate more local leads. **Kasra Dash:** Step number two, this is to bolster your actual Google Business Profile. I would be creating dedicated service pages for each of your individual services as SEO optimised pages on your website. When you start doing that, it's going to help rank your SEO optimised pages, and it also increases the chance of your Google Business Profile ranking for those keywords too. You're indirectly going to get more phone calls. **James Dooley:** If you are looking for more local leads, another option is PPC lead generation. That's pay per click within Google or Bing where you're targeting bottom of the funnel keywords that can generate more inquiries. The difficult part is you need to team up with a good pay per click agency because there's click fraud and also the need to build a negative keyword list so you're not getting job applicants and irrelevant traffic. PPC can work well but in the wrong hands you can waste a lot of money. It's another way of generating local leads. **Kasra Dash:** After that you've got Meta ads like Facebook and Instagram. Someone might be scrolling and see your ad. There are a few ways to set up Facebook ads. Option A is lead forms that are easy to do and the user never leaves the platform. The issue is the quality might not be great but you can add more questions to improve that. Then you’ve got conversion ads where users click through to your website and fill out your contact form. You've got a couple of different options. **James Dooley:** Another way to grow more local leads is organic social media. Posting regularly on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Pinterest, Instagram. There are lots of platforms you can be using. Reddit and Quora are big now if people have questions and you can answer them. Organic social media is another strong method to generate more local leads for your HVAC business. **Kasra Dash:** With organic social media it's a volume game. You need to constantly upload. For example a daily or weekly schedule. You might say you want to upload five videos per week. You must stick to that, especially because of algorithms like YouTube and Twitter. **James Dooley:** What are your thoughts on using AI agents to automate and schedule posts on social media, like using N8N? Artificial intelligence is all the rage now for generating leads. Would you team up with an AI consultant to set that up? **Kasra Dash:** You can definitely go down that route where you're setting up AI agents to crop videos and autopublish to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and more. But another big focus should be AI search. A lot of people have started to move away from Google. Not everyone because billions still use it, but some are starting to search in engines like ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude and Grok. If your brand isn’t showing up there, you'll struggle to generate leads on those search engines. That's another thing I'd focus on as a company. **James Dooley:** If you're looking for more business leads in the local area, you should also team up with tradespeople websites. Checkatrade, Bark, Builder Builder, TrustATrader, Rated People. These platforms can generate more local leads. Track your KPIs to see what return on investment you're getting. Track cost per lead, cost per acquisition and your ROI. Tradespeople websites can work very well. **Kasra Dash:** With lead generation companies you must do your due diligence. Make certain that if you're in a specific niche, the company has generated leads in that industry before. Have a strategy call with them. Explain your budget and how many leads you want. Ensure your KPIs align. You also need to know whether the leads are exclusive or shared. A lot of companies like Bark and Checkatrade provide shared leads, and business owners often tell us their biggest pain point is competing on price in a race to the bottom. Those are key questions before partnering with any lead generation company. **James Dooley:** If anyone is interested in generating more local leads, I strongly recommend heading over to FatRank.com where we offer a commission based lead generation service. You only pay a finders fee on converted jobs. You pay nothing per lead. You pay nothing until you get paid. Once you convert the job and get paid, then you pay FatRank.com. Head to FatRank.com to see whether you qualify. **Kasra Dash:** What are your thoughts on inbound vs outbound lead generation? **James Dooley:** I always prefer inbound. The conversion rate of getting the lead and converting it into a paying customer is far higher. The last stat I saw was around 16.1 percent converting for inbound versus 1.4 percent for outbound. It's crazy how much more inbound converts. Outbound requires huge volume. Cold calling, cold email, LinkedIn sales navigator. You need more staff. People think outbound is free but you've still got costs for sending emails and the sales team trying to convert. Inbound is much better. **Kasra Dash:** Some people ask whether real time leads are important. As soon as someone inquires, it comes through instantly. **James Dooley:** It's very important. The last stat we saw internally was that real time leads convert around 63 percent higher. Responding in under a minute made a huge difference. Not every company needs to respond that fast but when we partner with businesses it's something we look at. Some companies go on holiday for five days and have no one to pick up leads. There are lots of little nuances we consider when partnering. But if you're looking to scale your business with consistent high quality leads, fill out the form at FatRank. The team will tell you if you're the right fit or not and give feedback. **Kasra Dash:** I hope you like all the different lead generation strategies for a HVAC business. If you are a HVAC company and you are serious about growing, head over to FatRank.com and fill in the form where hopefully we can start generating you more HVAC leads.
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James Dooley is a UK entrepreneur.